Why Does Homosexuality Threaten Religion?Melissa, I'm sorry but you've got it all backwards. Religions are not threatened by homosexuality. Homosexuality is threatened by all religions. Our collective agreements against homosexuality is based on God's law. Not fear. There is no fear in God. God created sexuality for procreation and intimate relationships between a man and a woman. These things are not thought on because the statement has been made. They are sinful because it's against the natural order of things, it's against procreation, it's against the word of God. You said, "We need to grow up and grow into the spirit of knowing our bodies are a beautiful gift from God." this might be true but when used in that post it's nothing but straight up blasphemy in all religions.Today's guest moderator is Melissa Etheridge, an Academy Award-winning and two-time Grammy Award-winning American rock singer, songwriter and musician. (I guess that qualifies her on this issue)
Why are so many religions threatened by homosexuality? As we ease ourselves into the big change now, thoughts of how we conduct ourselves as a new society open up. We begin to see the dogmas of old that have ruled our collective agreements start to crumble. Why? Because they are based in fear and not spirit, fear of the body, fear of sexuality. These things were to be thought of as wrong and sinful. So it just follows that homosexuality, at its core being love and sex that is not for procreation, would be viewed as wrong and sinful and feared. We need to grow up and grow into the spirit of knowing our bodies are a beautiful gift from God. Love is all there is, and love is never wrong. Why should we be threatened by love?
I can deal with gay couples that live like normal everyday people. They don't try to attract attention to themselves no more than everyone else in society. Besides, when's the last time you seen a straight parade?
I can understand and accept people truly loving each and wanting to live together as companions. It's when lust is purposely called love to make your sins feel justified that makes your case unstable in my eyes. Then when society starts becoming ok with the lust/love change, it becomes obvious things are crumbling in the wrong areas.
http://www.gotquestions.org/homosexuality-Bible.html
http://bible-truths.com/homosex.htm
Now before you attack me claiming I hate homosexuals or if you want to challenge my statement with me standing on the words of the Bible, you're wrong.
I don't hate anyone. I'm not working on this website and this blog to burn the bridges between myself and those I want to reach. By Gods great power and grace I'm praying this doesn't do that. I'm all for equal rights and we have that in this country. Each individual person has the exact same rights as the person on the others side of this county. Great people in our history have fought and died and still die for these equal freedoms.
We are all sinners in the eyes of God. We all fall short of his glory and it's through Jesus Christ we acheive worth to enter into Heaven.
I think I would agree with Melissa. For a view contrary to that espoused in the 2 links in your blog, I would like to point out www.GaysAndSlaves.com. Among other things, it shows why the Biblical condemnation of homosexual practice does not apply today. Note especially the no-harm test.
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ReplyDeleteGod doesn't condone same sex love. Meaning as strong affection not sexual attraction. That's called lust. Like I said I am all right with men being companions. I've got friends that if my wife was to pass on I would not hesitate to live with. Some of them I love dearly but I wouldn't engage in sexual activity with them. Because it's wrong morally and the bible is clearly still against it in the New Testament. Gays just don't want to or don't know where to look. Here's a few scriptures from the New Testament.
Romans 1:26-27
1 Corinthians 5:9-11
1 Corinthians 6:9-10
1 Corinthians 6:11
Ephesians 5:5
1 Timothy 1:9-10
Hebrews 13:4
Revelations 21:8
Revelations 22:14-15
Then Jesus said-
"You have heard that it was said by them of old time, You shall not commit adultery: But I say unto you, That whosoever looks on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart" (Matt. 5:27-28)
All things being equal today this would apply to all sexes and transgender acts.
Dory,
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"I can deal with gay couples that live like normal everyday people. They don't try to attract attention to themselves no more than everyone else in society. Besides, when's the last time you seen a straight parade?"
I think you are neglecting a fundamental factor here. 'Normal' straight couple do not need a parade because they are not singled out and persecuted by the mainstream like gay couples are.
I know there are differences, but it's like me saying in the 50s/60s;
'I've got nothing against black people, it's when they try to attract attentions to themselves more than everyone else in society. When was the last time you saw a white parade?'
Do you see what I'm getting at? Gay people have HAD to have pride parades and marches because they feel the need for support and solidarity. How many of them do you think were disowned by their parents or bullied at school? How many have been spat at or called names based on who they feel attracted to?
When you look at it in those terms, you see why they NEED to hold Pride Festivals and be open and bold about who they are. They are trying to pave the way so that future generations won't have to. Let's face it, you'd be surprised to see a Black Pride parade these days and that is down to successes of people like Dr. King who were bold enough to speak out and attract attention to the cause.
Of course, I hate Pride marches because I can't stand the crappy music they tend to play!
I see what your saying but I don't agree. Their rights as a human in this country are not in question.
ReplyDeleteBlack's in the USA had a very different fight. They was being discriminated against because of the color of their skin. Something they had no control over what so ever. They wanted to be equal citizens to receive same treatment as everyone else. That was their God given right and bless those who had the courage to stand up and fight.
Gays already have those rights, then they flaunt their perverted "keep it indoors" lifestyle which is a moral and a public health dilemma. Just look at the rash of STD's we have today because of those who don't follow God's will for sexual intimacy.
I'm sorry Dory, but I'm going to have to disagree with almost everything you just said.
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"I see what your saying but I don't agree. Their rights as a human in this country are not in question."
They most certainly are. You may have seen Proposition 8 on the news recently? They SHOULD have the same inalienable rights as everyone else, but clearly they don't. You, personally, not approving of who they are should have no bearing on their ability to marry and be legally bound to whichever partner they decide. There are also social rights to consider - the right not to bullied at school or at work because of your sexual orientation.
Then you said:
"Black's in the USA had a very different fight."
They were fighting for equality - exactly the same thing as gays are fighting for now. Equality: social and legal.
"They were being discriminated against because of the color of their skin. Something they had no control over what so ever. They wanted to be equal citizens to receive same treatment as everyone else."
Are you under the mistaken impression that gays DECIDE to be gay? Perhaps you do not know as many homosexuals as I do; they were all born that way. They can no more change who they are attracted to than a black person can change the colour of their skin. And even if they could: WHY SHOULD THEY HAVE TO?
"That was their God given right and bless those who had the courage to stand up and fight."
I applaud those who stood up for the rights of black people just as I applaud those who stand up for the rights of any minority; why are you so selective about whose rights it is acceptable to fight for?
"Gays already have those rights, then they flaunt their perverted "keep it indoors" lifestyle which is a moral and a public health dilemma."
Now we're getting into it. Their 'perverted lifestyle'? It seems like you essentially have a problem with the thought of two men having sex with each other. Why does that disturb you so much?
You say that 'gays already have those rights' but you must be well aware of the discrimination that gay men face for being who they are. How can you morally stand in the way of a movement that is trying to prevent a portion of society from having to put up with hate-crimes and bigotry?
"Just look at the rash of STD's we have today because of those who don't follow God's will for sexual intimacy."
Promiscuity and homosexuality are not the same thing. If you knew the first thing about STDs you'd know that most straight people carry a variety of viruses (most are harmless and do not show) and although gay men are a high-risk group, lesbians are at the least risk of contracting an STD; still homosexual, still not following 'God's will for sexual intimacy' only they're not being 'punished' with STDs. Why do you think God disaproves of gay men more than gay women?
Dory,
Let me assure you. In a couple of generations time. The gay population will be just as accepted in most parts of N. America as all the other minority groups that have gone before them. When that happens, there will be less Pride-style events, less flaunting of sexuality and less discussion about its morality. People will look back on those who stood in the way of gay rights (not just legal rights, remember) in the same way we look back on those who stood in the way of the civil rights movements.
Please think/pray on this.
Regards,
Matt
Thanks Matt I do appreciate your input. Although I doubt I can ever come to understand the physical aspect of homosexuals I can somewhat understand the emotional. They just want to be loved and accepted like anyone else on this planet. I can respect that.
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ReplyDeleteI left a comment but it hasn't shown. I basically said that your statement of; "They just want to be loved and accepted like anyone else on this planet." was spot on and if more people thought that way, we might just find ourselves in a better world.
Nice.
You said, over at Atheist Central;
"You all know what, evolution is just plain stupid."
I was just wondering; what do you actually know about the Theory of Evolution?
Cheers,
The relationship of David and Jonathan talks about the love between two men.
ReplyDeleteSorry I didn't see these post till now. I'm going to be off the internet for a few days soon as I get connected again I'll post a follow up for you.
ReplyDeleteExPatMatt-I'm working on a post about that topic here in a few days.
ReplyDeleteMilo- David and Jonathan were not homosexual if that's what you may think. Lot of people like to pull that card out and make it seem that way.
here's a good read on this:
http://www.biblestudy.org/question/was-king-david-gay.html
if your tracking by email sorry about the delete to edit actions. That's the bad thing about these blog sites.
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